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warrenpees
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Stable genius.


« Reply #12 on: 07 23, 11, 05:04:55:PM » Reply

Ask someone to read to you about what the fuck socialism is.   
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« Reply #13 on: 07 23, 11, 05:06:55:PM » Reply

right wingers are always trying to revise history.  the democrats let freddie mac and fannie mae buy too many mortgages, when 95% of those mortages were bought while bush was in office and the republicans held both houses of congress.  the republicans pushed through the Civil Rights Act, when it was the democratic president from the south who pushed it through, knowing it would end the democratic nomination of the south by the democrats for generations, due to so many racists living in the south then and even today.  and that nazis were left wing, not the most right wing political group ever in history...just crazy ass ridiculous shit, that some revisionist right winger has put on his website so they try to believe it.
stretch351c
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« Reply #14 on: 07 23, 11, 05:07:34:PM » Reply

sound familiar warren?


"We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: … an end to the power of the financial interests. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand … the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education … We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents … The government must undertake the improvement of public health – by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor … by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth. We combat the … materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of the common good before the individual good."

– From the political program of the Nazi Party, adopted in Munich, February 24, 1920
John Adams
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« Reply #15 on: 07 23, 11, 05:09:56:PM » Reply

barry is more a student of Marx than of any other radical leftist.....

barry is a marxist....
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« Reply #16 on: 07 23, 11, 05:10:09:PM » Reply

what is this goddamn obsession these idiot right wingers have with abortion?  that has absolutely nothing to do with politics.  sure, some right wingers believe the state has the power to force women to have babies, but so do some liberal catholics and protestants, and many more are against it themselves, but do not believe the state has the right to force any women to cede control to the state power over her body.  nobody is pro-abortion.  adams is just a silly ass clown.   
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« Reply #17 on: 07 23, 11, 05:11:12:PM » Reply

See #10 above.   
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« Reply #18 on: 07 23, 11, 05:20:45:PM » Reply

The answer is obvious.  Hitler was a Nazi.  As such he was more "Nazi" than liberal or conservative.  As I have stated before Hitler's racist beliefs, his economic policy, and form of government are all uniquely "Hitler" in their own evil way and not to be carelessly compared to the politicians of today.  Many are no fan of the policies of George W. Bush or Barack H. Obama but neither deserve to be put beside the mass murderer of six millions Jews.
Having said that since Glenn Beck has made the absurd claim that Hitler was more liberal than conservative I feel the need to defend the progressives.  Looking at all of Hitler's policies, not just the select few Beck picks, Hitler was clearly more right-wing conservative that left-wing liberal.  Though I would never say any of the current, prominent modern-day conservatives are on the same level of Hitler's craziness.  Let us now look at all of Hitler's beliefs and policies.
Economic Policy:
As the Beck clip below correctly asserts Hitler did believe in a strong emphasis on education and universal health care (except of course for those he ruthlessly murdered).  However they are also correct in their assertion that Hitler outlawed labor unions in Germany.  Yes that would be the "progressive" labor unions of the day like SEIU that Beck always complains about.  Beck and Goldberg then go on to say there is no real difference between Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
Hitler worked with the industrialist of Germany and allowed a tremendous profit incentive to remain.  The Nazis were a socialist party in name only.  The State did not take over all the major factors of production in the German economy which is the hallmark trait of socialist state.  In addition when Hitler did use government to control the economy he used his dictatorial powers and terror as the means of control.  Progressives like Teddy Roosevelt used the democratic process to allow more government control of the economy.  Hitler could literally use the army to take over a business.  Roosevelt used his Justice Department to break up trusts using the laws enacted by an elected legislature.  There is a tremendous difference between the two.
Having said this it must be conceded that progressives generally favor more governmental regulation of the economy than conservatives.  Hitler was certainly in favor of more government control though his policy was more extreme than anything proposed by American progressives.
Military Policy and Foreign Policy:
Another major part of Hitler's policy was militarism.  Hitler greatly increased the portion of the German economy devoted to military spending and further believed that the best defense was a good offense.
A look at recent history reveals that Republicans certainly favor more military spending than liberals.  Reagan greatly increased "defense" spending even though a good portion of the increased budget was devoted to weapons of an offensive nature.  President Bush was also noted for his large increases in the defense budget.  Beck claims Bush was a progressive, a belief not at all agreed upon by the many conservatives who call him part of their own.
Finally Hitler's foreign policy was focused not on cooperation but on the use of force or the the threat of force to dominate the rest of the world.  President Obama has consistently been criticized by Beck and other conservatives for "apologizing" and being "soft" in his foreign policy approach.  They contrast this with people like Reagan who attempted to use military power and a "tougher" stance to achieve American foreign policy objectives.
Social Policy:
Most conservative beliefs have a religious underpinning.  Beck himself cites his Mormon beliefs many times in justifying his political views.  Conservatives use religious reasoning to justify their opposition to gay rights, the separation of church and state, and the general loss of "morality" in American culture.
The myth is that Hitler was anti-religion.  In reality Hitler used religious reasoning to justify his own policies.  Hitler focused on how the Aryan people had a "Christian heritage" with principles that must be adhered in order to rebuild the country.  This all sounds awfully similar to Beck's urging for us to return to the supposed Christian foundations of our own country.
Hitler worked with the Catholic Church to implement his agenda. The Catholic church has subsequently apologized for its role during the Nazi era.
One of the targets of Nazi persecution, in addition to Jews, were homosexuals.  Homosexuals were viewed as deviants under Hitler's government who were not deserving of equal rights along with other German citizens.
Conclusion:
The liberal and conservative movements of today are distinct from the beliefs and policies of Hitler's Nazi-era regime.  Beck only distorts the historical record by arguing Hitler was somehow more progressive or liberal than conservative.  In anything an analysis of all of Hitler policies resemble more of an extreme far-right ideology than anything else.
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« Reply #19 on: 07 23, 11, 05:24:07:PM » Reply

Marxism, Liberalism, pretty much the same thing.
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« Reply #20 on: 07 23, 11, 05:28:11:PM » Reply

only to a fucking idiot clown like you...
John Adams
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« Reply #21 on: 07 23, 11, 05:30:07:PM » Reply

So, are you too embarrassed to show attribution for your cut and paste......

That shit did not come from you, a mere mental midget......
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« Reply #22 on: 07 23, 11, 05:37:31:PM » Reply

Hoosier, doesn't know what Nazi stands for!
 
National Socialist German Workers Party!
 
Hoosier, Socialist is in the name!
mayzin1
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« Reply #23 on: 07 23, 11, 05:52:24:PM » Reply

John, If only you had more than two neurons and a single synapse you would be able to comprehend what you read rather than copy and paste it as if it were a Gospel.
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