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Title: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Local5th on 04 28, 24, 06:20:56:PM
This week in Florida, Judge Aileen Cannon unsealed a trove of new documents that Jack Smith fought to keep hidden. And you'll soon find out why. Among the documents unsealed were extensive exhibits, motions, and other filings shedding light on the intricate web of communication between the Biden White House and the National Archives and Records Administration in the lead-up to Trump's indictment.


Investigative journalist Julie Kelly found something interesting in the documents that could change everything. The first things is testimony from an FBI agent who testified that the General Services Association (GSA) had been in possession of Trump's boxes in Virginia before ordering Trump's team to come get them.

"So an entire pallet full of boxes that had been held by GSA somewhere outside of DC is dumped at Mar-a-Lago," Kelly notes. "Apparently these are the boxes that ended up containing papers with 'classified markings.'"

"I will double check indictment but I don't recall this event in the timeline," she added.

So, it appears that the Biden administration may have been responsible for shipping classified information to Trump's Mar-a-Lago home in Florida. This development is significant because Trump has previously blamed the GSA for packing the boxes that contained the classified documents, only to later accuse Trump of essentially stealing them and using that as pretext for sending the  FBI to raid his Mar-a-Lago home in August 2022.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/04/28/new-bombshell-evidence-emerges-was-trump-set-up-in-classified-docs-saga-n4928572

Sounds like your typical sting operation doesn't it?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 06:25:44:PM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Truman62 on 04 28, 24, 06:57:21:PM
OMG you fall for the silliest of things.

Trump BRAGGED about having all those boxes.

They were NOT dumped there.

You MAGA Fanatics get more ignorant by the day!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Local5th on 04 28, 24, 07:11:39:PM
The boxes were in the possession of the GSA and they requested Trump to pick them up. It's not like Trump came in and stole them in the middle of the night.

If the GSA thought he might be taking things he shouldn't why didn't they inspect and/or keep the boxes while they had them?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 07:14:14:PM
This is some recycled bullshit from 2 years ago local.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 07:15:34:PM
Trump said the FBI found classified documents at his home because federal workers packed them. But emails Bloomberg got show boxes were already packed when movers arrived.

Oct 5, 2022,

Bloomberg News got emails with information about boxes packed during Trump's White House move.

Trump said the FBI found classified documents at his home because federal workers packed them.

But the emails, with the GSA, show the boxes were already packed when the movers arrived.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-boxes-were-already-packed-when-government-movers-arrived-bloomberg-2022-10


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 07:18:11:PM
You need to stop reading the right wing fake news rags local.   They are making you stupidier than you already are.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Local5th on 04 28, 24, 07:31:03:PM
Bloomberg News got emails with information about boxes packed during Trump's White House move.

Trump said the FBI found classified documents at his home because federal workers packed them.


But the emails, with the GSA, show the boxes were already packed when the movers arrived.


The question remains. If the GSA thought/suspected he might be taking things he shouldn't why didn't they inspect and/or keep the boxes while they had them?


Or was that the plan all along? Have them picked up so they could raid Trump's residence to get them back.




Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 07:33:19:PM
Why would the GSA inspect the boxes?   They don't expect the president to lie to them and to try and sneak classified documents away from the government local.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 07:37:30:PM
Are you saying that it's not trump's fault he's a dishonest crook local.   That it's other people's fault for trusting him in the first place.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: chuck_curtis on 04 28, 24, 07:51:35:PM
Heck.  Everyone knows all this lawfare chit was timed and set up.  It began before the day he got elected with illegal spying and a fake dossier.  It's endless.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 08:09:12:PM
is it as endless as the fountain of shit you spew dan?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Local5th on 04 28, 24, 08:10:02:PM
They don't expect the president to lie to them and to try and sneak classified documents away from the government local.


There isn't a president alive that didn't end up with classified documents in the papers they took when they left the White House.

Our current President spirited away classified documents when he was a a VP


Why is it only Trump bothers you?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 08:15:31:PM
and he returned them without having the FBI and attorney's getting involved or trying to hide them.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: chuck_curtis on 04 28, 24, 08:19:16:PM
What we hear now is Chicken Little screaming at the top of his lungs for the umpteenth time, the sky really is falling --this time we got Trump.  Hahahahahaha!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Local5th on 04 28, 24, 08:42:17:PM
and he returned them without having the FBI and attorney's getting involved or trying to hide them.


He still broke the same laws they are charging Trump with.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 08:43:08:PM
got him for what?   rape/  corrupt dealings?   theft?   or all of that and more?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 08:44:59:PM
No the charges aren't the same local



Trump is charged separately for each of 32 documents under the Espionage Act. The other eight charges against him include making false statements and engaging in a conspiracy to obstruct justice.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 08:46:14:PM
if it hadn't been for the false statements and obstruction there wouldn't be any charges for the documents local.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 04 28, 24, 11:17:56:PM
Yep, false statements and obstruction by the Beijing Biden administration!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 28, 24, 11:27:49:PM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Truman62 on 04 29, 24, 01:16:01:AM
There's no use trying to talk to these MAGA Morons.

All they care about is their next blowjob and who is giving it to them.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 04 29, 24, 04:55:13:AM
Yep, false statements and obstruction by the Beijing Biden administration!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 04 30, 24, 05:05:03:AM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 01, 24, 01:00:46:AM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: zsq987 on 05 07, 24, 03:26:53:PM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: chuck_curtis on 05 07, 24, 04:24:53:PM
Just goes to prove how entrenched and brutal the establishment is.  It's one hell of an enemy, but now everyone is aware of it.  It's no longer a conspiracy theory, but a conspiracy fact.  In it's zeal, firing all barrels, it showed its hand.  There is nothing it won't do, no limit to how low it will go.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 07, 24, 07:05:15:PM
The bureaucracy becomes more dangerous the bigger it becomes!

It is time to defund it!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Jw2 on 05 07, 24, 07:06:15:PM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 07, 24, 07:12:43:PM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 07, 24, 07:46:03:PM
What actual charges were you saying Bill or Hillary Clinton should have been indicted for doodly?   How about Hunter Biden?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: omiaqt on 05 07, 24, 08:18:49:PM
wvit....explain to the Board, why Biden can keep classified documents in an unsecured garage and other location, where countless unauthorized persons had access. Keeping in mind, all were technically stolen from the Government? Why can he avoid prosecution, when Trump was a President and by the Presidential Records act is technically entitled to possess. Got an answer...wvit?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 07, 24, 08:27:54:PM
trump wasn't charged for keeping the documents.  Special Counsel Jack Smith said that the indictment charged the former president with “felony violations of our national security laws” and “participating in a conspiracy to obstruct justice.” He also encouraged the public to read the indictment to understand the scale and scope of the charges.



https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/06/trump-indictment.pdf


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: omiaqt on 05 07, 24, 08:32:49:PM
Nice try, but no sale...wvit. secondly why was Biden not prosecuted, when he clearly stole all the classified documents found in his possession?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 07, 24, 08:45:27:PM
did Biden refuse to give the documents back?   or did he try to obstruct the authorities from retrieving the documents?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 07, 24, 08:50:40:PM
Federal indictment on classified documents charges in Florida

Trump is accused of keeping classified documents after leaving the White House and storing them "in various locations at The Mar-a-Lago Club including in a ballroom, a bathroom and shower, an office space, his bedroom, and a storage room," according to the indictment. He is also accused of a "scheme to conceal" that he had kept those documents.

32 counts of unlawful retention of national defense information;
One count of conspiracy to obstruct justice;
One count of withholding a document or record;
One count of corruptly concealing a document or record
One count of concealing a document in a federal investigation
One count of scheme to conceal
One count of false statements and representations
One count of altering, destroying, mutilating or concealing an object
One count of corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating or concealing a document, record or other object


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 07, 24, 08:58:52:PM
Some Trump allies have equated the Biden and Trump discoveries, though in Trump’s case, prosecutors have suggested the former president may have misled his attorneys and failed to comply with a subpoena prior to the FBI’s raid.

I don't remember the FBI having to get warrants and make raids on Biden to get their documents back do you omiaqt?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 08, 24, 05:19:09:AM
I don't remember Beijing Biden ever having the legal authority to declassify documents or remove them from any governmental facility!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: omiaqt on 05 08, 24, 08:58:04:AM
I'll make this simple for you wvit...did or didn't Biden steal each and every classified document found in his possession. After getting caught, cooperation is irrelevant. Kinda like a murderer,  getting off by just admitting he did it...


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 08, 24, 09:02:00:AM
Democrats insist they are above the law!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Local5th on 05 08, 24, 11:53:55:AM
Some Trump allies have equated the Biden and Trump discoveries


In Biden's case he was VP when he stole the documents.


Ever hear of a VP doing that?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 08, 24, 01:08:57:PM
Had any ordinary government worker ever done that, he would be arrested and imprisoned!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Dan on 05 08, 24, 01:12:42:PM
John Walsh,

Trump also used to praise Hillary Clinton. (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 08, 24, 01:35:27:PM
Democrats used to love Trump!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 09, 24, 07:01:17:AM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 10, 24, 09:36:07:AM
Remember, Beijing Biden had at no time the authority to possess classified documents!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: omiaqt on 05 10, 24, 06:55:39:PM
I threw the Bullshit flag the first time I saw the photo of the classified document covers laying on the floor. It was obviously a staged photo.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 10, 24, 06:58:40:PM
Is that really all you have omiaqt?   hahahahahahahahaaaaaa


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 10, 24, 07:26:32:PM
We all know bullshit is all you ever have CCPWvit!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 10, 24, 07:27:38:PM
is fishing to upset someone all you've got doodly?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 10, 24, 07:39:33:PM
All I did was state immutable facts!


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 10, 24, 07:45:38:PM
hahahahahahhha,   get a grip goofy.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: omiaqt on 05 10, 24, 07:52:25:PM
I have the Judge's decision saying she believes evidences was tampered with. Do you need more than that wvit? That my nitwvit, is more than enough to dismiss.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 10, 24, 08:00:16:PM
sure go ahead and post it omiaqt. 


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 10, 24, 08:09:03:PM
omiaqt has run away.   hahahahahahahahahaaa


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: seahooker on 05 10, 24, 09:13:27:PM
Jack Smith, in Startling Filing in Trump Mar-a-Lago Case, Admits To Misleading Judge and Altering Order of Secret Documents

Jack Smith, in Startling Filing in Trump Mar-a-Lago Case, Admits To Misleading Judge and Altering Order of Secret Documents | The New York Sun (nysun.com) (https://www.nysun.com/article/inconsistent-jack-smith-admits-to-misleading-judge-and-altered-order-of-secret-documents-in-trump-case)


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: seahooker on 05 10, 24, 09:16:45:PM
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Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 10, 24, 09:17:41:PM
Altering the order of some documents in a box?   is that really why you want to stop the trial?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: seahooker on 05 10, 24, 09:41:28:PM
Screwing with evidence?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Truman62 on 05 11, 24, 12:47:15:AM
The facts are that Donnie HAD the documents.

When asked multiple times to give them back, not only did he decline, but he then lied about it.

Donnie bragged about keeping the documents to his Mar-a-Farto guests all the time.

FBI finally had to go in and get the documents after notifying Trump's lawyers that they were coming to get them.

Yes, the lawyers were warned ahead of time.  How else did they know to be there that morning?


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: Dan on 05 11, 24, 02:35:56:AM
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So?

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When asked multiple times to give them back
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Why should he give them back?
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Trump bragged about keeping the documents to his Mar-a Lago guests all the time.
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So?  Bragging is not a crime.

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FBI finally had to go in and get the documents
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No they didn’t.  They could have stayed out of the dispute.


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after notifying Trump's lawyers that they were coming to get them.
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No they didn’t.  They raided his home without warning early in the morning.


Why did they never raid Hillary Clinton’s home?  Or Joe Biden’s?
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They came AFTER they found out Biden’s FBI raided the home of Biden’s political opponent.


Title: Re: Was Trump Set Up in Classified Docs Saga?
Post by: D2D on 05 11, 24, 09:20:29:AM
At what point was Beijing Biden legally allowed to have classified documents and share them with Chinese agents?